- set passive scan to 5 for Epic Blooms

- Make jump in limit for empty systems 13 or num planets * 2, whichever is higher

- Change trade gates so only protect from DL loss if you also have a colony in the system.

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- Change trade gates so only protect from DL loss if you also have a colony in the system.

The phrasing of that implies that there is already a system in place to protect from DL loss... is that true? There was nothing about it in the rules (or I need glasses) and I looked at them from top to bottom while refamiliarizing myself with he game.

True - there was a single small comment at the bottom of the DarkLight page.

I updated both the Darklight page and the Construct page to highlight that you can avoid darklight loss - did that today.

Thanks, I better go review it.

Actually, having looked into it a bit I'll change these revisions to:

1) Jump in limits
- Jump in is now limited to 2*num planets per race
- Unless there is a lock down drone.

I think this is good enough. ie get rid of the 13 pts overmatching limit as well.

2) Epic bloom now acts as beholder, range 5
So you will see who is close.

3) If jump out near trade gate and you have colonies in the system then you don't lose DL.

4) (new) Only one trade gate is allowed per system. i.e. only one race can have a trade gate in a system.

Ok, except for one thing: what about allies/empires who are sharing systems? What do they do about trade gates?

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4) (new) Only one trade gate is allowed per system. i.e. only one race can have a trade gate in a system.

nice... this is defenitely going to make some things interesting.

btw, how about something to allow stations to self repair if no enemy forces are in system? if not full recovery at least once per galactic turn... it's still annoying self destructing a station just to get it repaired, lol.

I'm not sure about the empires - I think for now leave it as a total rule - 1 per race. If that doesn't work then tweak it.

Stations can build more armour....That is self repair, kindof. Again, it is mainly working, so is it worth changing? I could on this one, as I don't think the current system is simpler than auto repair of the core. Doub't I'll ever auto repair the armour. OTOH,leaving it as it is is even less work....

lol, no, I'm not saying auto repair of armour either, since you can just take out, then replace the armour, fixing it.

leaving it at 1 trade gate per race is gonna make it interesting when you can't heal your own without purposely giving the other side a chance build there own... and if they do, all they need do is drag it out some and all colonies at 3 will die off, leaving you with even more work even if you do 'win'

to me that's just kind of cruel

Ah yes, I see.

What's going to happen if you've already got more than one races trade gate in a single system?

Destroy a random trade gate?

Maybe I should kill Sarthar's gate then rather than pirating it.

Kill his gate!

Maybe I should say that neither works until you kill one? Or maybe they both die. Or, more likely, they both work until one dies....

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I'm not sure about the empires - I think for now leave it as a total rule - 1 per race. If that doesn't work then tweak it.

thought I may want to bring this up now instead of it coming up later...
1: 1 trade gate per race per system
2: ripcurrents are not shared between empire members
3: planets with colonists (esp those little max 3 planets) die w/o trade gate

this translates into:
if an empire mate colonizes a system that you need, there will be nothing he can do unless he kills his own gate. until then you will be blocked from using ripcurrents from that system, most planets in that system.

so...
1: allow trade gates to work between empire mates (or able to build more then 1 since they are same empire, ie not enemy)
2: allow empire mates to share ripcurrents (since current is really more important then 1 system in population anyway)
3: leave it like that and tell them they will just have to strategize more. (giving empire mates a disadvantage to going solo)

I think that pretty much wraps it up...
btw, going off of #1 there... how about simply setting it up where you are not allowed to make constructs if there is an enemy present in system. since an enemy is considered in the system already if an enemy trade gate is there, it will force them to cleanse the system to build there own. and empire mates will be able to build there own since according to the game no enemy is present (only allies) it would also mean building trade gate and throwing a colonist pod at the nearest planet to avoid DL loss in midbattle would no longer be an option... they would have to use a trade gate already present. (not to mention making a trade gate a lot bigger of a target... and a lot more worth in trying to keep alive)